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1. Crusader Kings 2 Vs Europa Universalis 4 Torrent

Hi,So in the Steam sale is the Paradox bundle with Stellaris, Hearts of Iron IV, Crusader Kings II and Europa Universalis IV.I own Stellaris (not actually played it yet) already, but I'm tempted to get this bundle because I'm a little tempted by HoI4 and CK2.So my question really is, is it worth getting the base game of CK2?There seems to be so much DLC for it, is it worth getting without some/all of it?The there's Europa Universalis IV. Not a game I've really been interested in before, but it'd cost me £21.48 for HoI4 and CK2 or £27.20 for all 3 (meaning EU4 is £5.72). Is EU4 any good? And again, is it any good without some/all of the DLC?Thanks.P.S. Damn Steam sales! (If you see a thread about Tyranny pop up, that's probably me too).

Hi,So in the Steam sale is the Paradox bundle with Stellaris, Hearts of Iron IV, Crusader Kings II and Europa Universalis IV.I own Stellaris (not actually played it yet) already, but I'm tempted to get this bundle because I'm a little tempted by HoI4 and CK2.So my question really is, is it worth getting the base game of CK2?There seems to be so much DLC for it, is it worth getting without some/all of it?The there's Europa Universalis IV. Not a game I've really been interested in before, but it'd cost me £21.48 for HoI4 and CK2 or £27.20 for all 3 (meaning EU4 is £5.72). Is EU4 any good? And again, is it any good without some/all of the DLC?Thanks.P.S. Damn Steam sales!

(If you see a thread about Tyranny pop up, that's probably me too). Click to expand.The best grand strategy games ever made are those two (CK2 and EU4). However they are VERY different games also.CK2 is more of a dynasty game, while EU4 is more of empire game.I have found CK2 more fun, but each on their own.

I love them all, but right now I’m only going to consider the current generation - Victoria 2, Crusader Kings 2, Hearts of Iron 4, Europa Universalis 4, and Stellaris. There are things I love about each of them but I think the clear winner for me, right now, is Europa Universalis 4. They’ve really tightened up the gameplay to the point where I’m always making an interesting decision, but I’m not necessarily taking 1,000 clicks to make something happen. I can play a game as a republic trade nation, or I can have an entirely different experience playing as a imperial military power. I can see what would happen if I made China a colonial superpower, or try my hand at having Frankfurt unify Germany. When you throw other enhancements like institutions and ages, I can play this game for hundreds of hours no problem.I’ve been meaning to give Victoria 2 another go but having forgot about how the systems work makes re-learning it tedious. I often play Stellaris but my wrist hurts after a session because of all the micromanagement.

I have fond memories of Crusader Kings 2 but I think the game is a little long in the tooth for me. I happen to be in the middle of a game of Hearts of Iron 4 right now, but the focus is completely different and I find that I have to be in a very selective mood to want to play that one. Still a great game though.Thanks for the topic laying out what I love (and not so love) about this games was very cathartic. I like a lot of them for different reasons, but as of today, I have to put EU4 up there.

Crusader Kings 2 Vs Europa Universalis 4 Torrent

I loved it at release but the continued development and updates have expanded it to a degree that it’s my all-time favorite strategy game.There’s a lot I really like about HOI4, but at the end of the day I’m more of an empire builder than I am a wargame player, and that title skews more to the latter. Stellaris might eventually surpass EU4 for me, but they’re still recovering from design stumbles they had out the gate. Hands down EU IV for me.The other EUs were good but lacked that je ne sais quoi. The game was too basic at some points, too complicated in others. It is not that I did not enjoy them but I was not addicted. I playThe hed EU 3 for around 70 hours but played Civ IV with BtS (which came out about 6 months later) for about a million hours.

EU IV is now my most played game on Steam with about 10 times as many hours as the 3rd one.I have not been able to get into CK or CK2. I am simply bored to tears on the 2nd one.Stellaris is not quite to the level of EU IV.HoI 2 and 3 were lessons in micromanagement.

I love HOI 4 but it still does not come to the level of EU IV. Sharpe:Thus far in the thread, EUIV is coming out on top. I looked in my Steam library and I bought it (probably on sale at some point) but haven’t played it. I did play quite a bit of the first EU back in the day. I notice that EU:IV has a ton of DLC which I don’t own. If I were to fire up EU:IV, is the base game good, or is there DLC that is highly recommended?I purchased just the base game and had a wonderful time with it for many hours.If you decide to get DLC, the top two are Art of War and Common Sense. Those two are almost necessary to play the game after so many patches.